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A gathering place for those who love the ABC TV show Lost. This blog was started by a group of Fans who kept the Season 3 finale talkback at Ain't It going all the way until the première of the 4th season as a way to share images, news, spoilers, artwork, fan fiction and much more. Please come back often and become part of our community.

Friday, January 30, 2009

'Lost' theory debunked: Richard Alpert NOT into eyeliner

Jan 30, 2009, 02:44 PM by Annie Barrett

Lost's Nestor Carbonell told Sci-Fi Wire he understands why everyone thinks he's into "guyliner," but that it's simply a myth. "I could see why some people would think I have eyeliner on because [my eyelashes] are dark. Especially the bottom row, they're pretty dark. I've been dealing with it since I was a little kid, and so to me it's very funny when it comes up," explained Carbonell while batting his lashes without even meaning to. "My brother told me to look online and sort of Google something about that, and my name came up as a couple things. One of them was Maybelline Man. I've been dubbed by some people as Guyliner. It's very amusing."

And so is a Lostpedia forum I just found, entitled "The importance of Alpert's eyeliner" -- which contains this speculative gem: "Aside from the theory that Richard Alpert is a vain metrosexual stuck on a permanent vacation, I think that Alpert's eyeliner relates to his a pharoah or something...I've been researching all day, but can't find a conclusive connection to the ancient world, immortality and the wearing of eyeliner."

Thanks to Carbonell's brave speaking out on this important topic, we can stop all this wondering/researching and instead just be insanely jealous of the actor's natural gifts. So, moving on: What is the connection between Richard Alpert's occasional shadow-produced "smoky eye" (pictured) and Smokey the monster? WHOA.

Damon Lindelof & Carlton Cuse On The Secrets of 'Lost'

Thursday, 29 January 2009
By Christina Radish

Lost Executive Producer Carlton Cuse

After Oceanic Air flight 815 tore apart in mid-air and crashed on a Pacific island, its survivors were forced to find inner strength they never knew they had, in order to survive. But, they discovered that the island holds many secrets, including a mysterious smoke monster, polar bears, housing and hatches with electricity and hot & cold running water, a group of island residents known as “The Others,” and a mysterious man named Jacob. The survivors have also found signs of those who came to the island before them, including a 19th century sailing ship, called The Black Rock, a downed Beechcraft plane from a failed drug run, the remains of an ancient statue, as well as bunkers belonging to the Dharma Initiative -- a group of scientific researchers who inhabited the island in the recent past. They also encountered a freighter, stationed off the island, that some thought would lead to their rescue, but ultimately almost caused their extinction.

Various Spoilers

Man this just better & better! The last ones the best.

Rebecca Mader Interview

LOST Holds Firm

The good news for LOST is that the people who watched the premiere stuck around. It averaged 11.067 million. FOX’s new Lie to Me in the same time slot averaged 12.113 million, but LOST had the better 18-49 demo - 4.8/11 for LOST vs. 4.4/10 for Lie to Me.
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"Jughead" Synopsis by Lostpedia


On the Island (1954)

Ellie and the Others surround Miles, Charlotte and Daniel
Ellie and the Others surround Miles, Charlotte and Daniel

More Jughead Thoughts

After rewatching Jughead there are a few things to mention.

No one has mentioned the paradox. Not the time paradox, but the fact that Locke has to get off the island so the O6 can go back. Locke who so desperately wanted to stay has to leave so others that wanted to leave can go back. That's funny.

Juliet is remarkably calm about all this. I wonder where that's leading.

Juliet also call Latin the language of the enlightened. Among the definitions to this I found were...

Thursday, January 29, 2009

LOST 5x04 The Little Prince NEW Promo

LOST 5x04 The Little Prince Sneak Peek #1 + GMA Evangeline Lilly Interview

TV Guide Chat with Damon and Carlton

MY REVIews!! Episode 5x02 - The PIE!!

MY REVIews!! Episode 5x02 - The PIE!!
This EPISODED was a little less confusing FOR me!!

It started WITH the OCeanic 7 having A meeting on FRANK lapdancers BOAT to discuss some STUFF about pies!! The volume ON my TV has hacked BY abc or NASA so I could not HEAR it very well BUT i've NOT idea why they WOULD dicuss pies!! I will PUT some TOmato KETCHUP in my ears later to see if that HELP me hear better!!

We THEN moved onto a flashback of HURLEYS with HIM and SAYID although I Was not AWARE that they knew each other before the CRASH.

My REVIews!! Episode 5x01 - Because YOUR left HANDED!!

My REVIews!! Episode 5x01 - Because YOUR left HANDED!!
HEllo people!! I am back with MY first REVIEW of SEason 5!! I still CANNOT believe that this is THE last season!!

Well!! The first HOUR of Becasue YOUR left HANDED WAS very disappointing As it APPEARED that LOST has suffered from THE credit crunchy!! Tey USED a lot of OLD footage and EVEN cartonn Cuse and Damien Lintoff MADE cameos APPEAREANCES. It also SEEMED like everything was on a LOOP as we had SEEN a lot of these EVENTS!!

The 2nd HOUR of 5x01 WAS much better and it seemed ABC had more money FOR this EPISODE!!

'Lost' Recap: Time After Time

Faraday does his best to keep everyone, especially Charlotte, safe from an H-bomb, Desmond's search for Mama Faraday leads him to Widmore, and we learn something big about the tycoon
By Adam B. Vary

Lost Redux: Will Sawyer and Juliet Hook Up?

Wed., Jan. 28, 2009 8:00 PM PST by
ABC/Florian Schneider

"What the hell?" "Who the hell?" "When the hell?!"
If you found yourself asking these questions aloud while watching tonight's episode of Lost, you are not alone, my fellow lost friends.

The "WTF?" factor seems to be escalating with each new episode as the island skips through time...and according to Lost's big bosses, the romantic tension also will keep building between some of our favorite islanders (and Others) who just so happen to be pictured in all their hotness above.

So what's the word on the love quadrangle of Juliet, Sawyer, Jack and Kate? And what surprising little nuggets did we learn tonight? Read on...


There are some that are asking the question - why didn’t Locke kill Widmore when he met him as a young soldier? The answer (so far) has been that he couldn’t kill him because he didn’t die then - because he’s alive now.

That got me thinking.

If that's the case then Michael couldn't kill himself in the car crash or in the alley because he didn't die in a car crash or pulling the trigger because that's not when he died. He also didn't die when he set off the suitcase bomb because he didn't die that way or then. He died WHEN the boat exploded and could not die any other way.

Many folks have been sick/near death and recovered fairly quickly. Could it be because that's not how or when they actually died?

The O6 have to go back to the island in 70 hours because that's when they actually went back.

In aboriginal folklore is it said there are special places that hold all memories of what happened, are happening or will happen at that place. Could this be the secret of the island - that it knows when something happens because it's already seen them happen?

That would seem to mean that everything in LOST is future tense. We know what happened when because we saw it in the future.

And for those that did die? Boone and Libby and Shannon and Eko and Ana L and Alex and others - if we look back from the future we see that's WHEN they died. So because it was seen in the future that it did happen they had to die then.


Maybe Alex really wasn't supposed to die when she did....that if you look back from the future you don't see that event happening. Maybe that's what Ben meant by "he changed the rules." Alex wasn’t supposed to die then but she did. So Widmore changed the outcome of an event or caused an event to happen that the future did not know about. And Ben was shocked because this could not happen because if you look back from the future he or the island saw it did not happen.

Now Ben has threatened Penny's life. Is Ben also threatening to change an event? Ben also said the person turning the frozen donkey wheel could not return to the island, but he's trying to return. Does that change an event too? And is this possibly the same thing for Widmore - that he had moved the island and cannot return, but he's trying to return regardless of what the future saw happening?

In the 2 episodes last week there was something said when Ben took Locke to the meat locker and at the end of the 2 hours when Ben said 70 hours was not enough time. Things had to happen then and that way, and if they didn't then God help us all.

Considering all that, the future looks preety dim right now for our LOSTies.

'Lost': Doc Jensen's 'Jughead' take

Jan 29, 2009, 09:52 AM by Jeff Jensen

Many thanks to my colleague Adam B. Vary for taking on the Lost recap this week while I tend to other matters pertaining to our mutual obsession that will soon come to your attention. Adam mentioned I might have more to say about "Jughead" next week, but my utter enthusiasm for last night's episode prevents me from waiting that long. So some quick observations/theories.
"Jughead" rocked. Let me be clear and plain about this before cluttering your mind with my usual nonsense: I loved the episode. The pleasure it gave was visceral; it was a fun episode to feel your way through, from Desmond and his son beholding the London skyline at night to the in-passing revelation that Des and Pen had named their boy after the man who sacrificed his life so their relationship may live, Charlie. Killed me. The storytelling was strong and assured, and the story itself flowed in a surprising, unforced way. And has there been a funnier episode of Lost in recent memory? Not in a jokey way, but in an organic, character-derived sense—the kind of chuckles you get from clearly drawn characters and knowing them well. Faraday asking Miles if by chance the dead guys mentioned what year it was. Locke’s reaction to the Widmore reveal. Juliet and Alpert’s droll line readings. (Must be an Other thing, like Latin.) Sawyer to Faraday: “You told her?!” If you put a gun to my head and made me give you right here, right now, my top 10 list of all time fave Lost eps, I’m sure “Jughead” would be on it. Take the gun away, and I think it would still be there.

The Swan has a new meaning

Many thank to turketron over at AINC for finding this on wikipedia.

U.S. Swan Device: 1956

The first device whose dimensions suggest employment of all these features (two-point, hollow-pit, fusion-boosted implosion) was the Swan device, tested June 22, 1956, as the Inca shot of Operation Redwing, at Eniwetok. Its yield was 15 kilotons, about the same as Little Boy, the Hiroshima bomb. It weighed 105 lb (47.6 kg) and was cylindrical in shape, 11.6 inches (29.5 cm) in diameter and 22.9 inches (58 cm) long. The above schematic illustrates what were probably its essential features.

Eleven days later, July 3, 1956, the Swan was test-fired again at Eniwetok, as the Mohawk shot of Redwing. This time it served as the primary, or first stage, of a two-stage thermonuclear device, a role it played in a dozen such tests during the 1950s. Swan was the first off-the-shelf, multi-use primary, and the prototype for all that followed.

After the success of Swan, 11 or 12 inches (300 mm) seemed to become the standard diameter of boosted single-stage devices tested during the 1950s. Length was usually twice the diameter, but one such device, which became the W54 warhead, was closer to a sphere, only 15 inches (380 mm) long. It was tested two dozen times in the 1957-62 period before being deployed. No other design had such a long string of test failures. Since the longer devices tended to work correctly on the first try, there must have been some difficulty in flattening the two high explosive lenses enough to achieve the desired length-to-width ratio.

Just to tie things in, remember the Swan station was the original hatch. There was something encased in concrete below it which Sayid said was reminiscent of Chernobyl.

Thanks again turk.

Wednesday, January 28, 2009

Polls for Episodes 5.1 & 5.2

Who do you think is Daniel's Mother?

Mrs. Hawkings
25 (69%)

The Meat Lady that Ben left Lockes body with
0 (0%)

Someone that we haven't met yet
9 (25%)

A future version of Kate, Sun or Claire
2 (5%)

Votes so far: 36

What did you think of "Because You Left"?

This episode was my Constant
14 (28%)

29 (58%)

7 (14%)

0 (0%)

The Plot went around and around like the Donkey Wheel
0 (0%)

Votes so far: 50

What did you think of "The Lie"?

It moved me just like the island
4 (10%)

15 (37%)

20 (50%)

0 (0%)

Worse then the Purge
1 (2%)

Votes so far: 40

E Online, Watch With Kristen: "Lost"

The Shape of things to come: Ben, Widmore & Sayid

Im currently designing Ben, Widmore & Sayid. These are the first roughs that I actually like, but I have a ways to go before I'll feel good about them and color them in Adobe Illustrator. Heres some of my other character designs

'Lost': What's In a Name? Maybe...Clues?

'Lost': Doc Jensen
Doc Jensen dives into a quest for the hidden meaning of Island-related monikers: Dan Norton, Jughead, C.S. (Charlotte Staples) Lewis, and John Wheeler. Plus, your names -- when you sign reader mail, which the Doc answers here

Editor's note: In this installment, Doc Jensen offers an invocation for the new season of Lost theorizing; suggests that the Greek god Pan, whose name means ''involving all members'' and whose two faun feet total four toes, might have something to with ''Live Together, Die Alone'' thematics and other arcana; and finds a possible Lost link for Dan Norton (played by Tom Irwin, a.k.a. Angela's dad on [sigh] My So-Called Life), the lawyer who demanded Aaron's blood from Kate.